homosexuality
I watched 60 Minutes this past Sunday (March 12th) and the by far the most interesting of the 3 segments was the one on homosexuality.
The segment opened up with the camera entering a child's bedroom. The decor was stereotypical boy. GI Joes and cars, camoflauge drapes, video war game posters etc. Then the camera went across the hall and entered the other child's room. The contrast was strong--now the dominant color was pink and there were cute horses on the posters and stuffed animals on the bed.
It turns out that the two rooms both belong to boys, Jared and Adam. Identical twins, in fact. Since the past few decades have been filled with research suggesting the the roots of homosexuality are primarily genetic, for two children who are genetically identical to behave in such different ways, ways that suggest different sexual orientation, is quite startling. This point was made even more clear in an interview with an older pair of identical twin boys, these were in their 20s, one straight and one gay.
As a scientist this really fascinated me. There really is a lot of evidence pointing to a genetic basis for homosexuality but having identical twins develop like this causes some problems. The 60 Minutes segment did a wonderful job of developing those questions and giving what explanations as are known. It was evident that this is new work and a lot isn't understood yet. One of the examples was that the first born son in a family bears a 2% chance of being gay, but every subsequent male child born into the family has an increasing large chance of being gay. Researchers suspect that the mechanism here is the immune system of the mother reacting the the proteins coded for by the Y chromosone but it's not proven. Weirder still is the finding, made just in the past year, that this doesn't apply to males that are left handed. They always have the base level 2% chance of being gay. And none of this applies to girls at all.
Some of the work being done in animal models was covered. Footage was shown of rat studies that bear out the relationship between maternal hormone changes in utero with sexual orientation but the most interesting part was the twin studies, particularly of the young boys. 60 Minutes also included comparisons between archival home movie footage of kids with contemporary interviews with them. These were viewed by people that then evaluated the sexual orientation of the subjects both as kids and as adults. It was shocking to see how frequently the orientation was obvious even when the kids were 5 - 10 years old.
This raises the striking question--is homosexuality just about sex? To me, this suggests that who the person chooses to have sex with is just one small fragment of what being gay really means. I guess that really should be common sense. After all, we only have sex a few hours a week--if we're lucky-- but there's a total of 168 hours in a week. Why define people so strongly by who they have sex with rather than all the other myriad factors in their life. Just a thought.
I'll probably come back to this subject later on. The idea of sexual orientation coloring our entire existance is interesting and bears some contemplation. In any case, this was a very good segment. Anyone interested should go to the 60 Minutes website and check out the video segments they have there on this.
The segment opened up with the camera entering a child's bedroom. The decor was stereotypical boy. GI Joes and cars, camoflauge drapes, video war game posters etc. Then the camera went across the hall and entered the other child's room. The contrast was strong--now the dominant color was pink and there were cute horses on the posters and stuffed animals on the bed.
It turns out that the two rooms both belong to boys, Jared and Adam. Identical twins, in fact. Since the past few decades have been filled with research suggesting the the roots of homosexuality are primarily genetic, for two children who are genetically identical to behave in such different ways, ways that suggest different sexual orientation, is quite startling. This point was made even more clear in an interview with an older pair of identical twin boys, these were in their 20s, one straight and one gay.
As a scientist this really fascinated me. There really is a lot of evidence pointing to a genetic basis for homosexuality but having identical twins develop like this causes some problems. The 60 Minutes segment did a wonderful job of developing those questions and giving what explanations as are known. It was evident that this is new work and a lot isn't understood yet. One of the examples was that the first born son in a family bears a 2% chance of being gay, but every subsequent male child born into the family has an increasing large chance of being gay. Researchers suspect that the mechanism here is the immune system of the mother reacting the the proteins coded for by the Y chromosone but it's not proven. Weirder still is the finding, made just in the past year, that this doesn't apply to males that are left handed. They always have the base level 2% chance of being gay. And none of this applies to girls at all.
Some of the work being done in animal models was covered. Footage was shown of rat studies that bear out the relationship between maternal hormone changes in utero with sexual orientation but the most interesting part was the twin studies, particularly of the young boys. 60 Minutes also included comparisons between archival home movie footage of kids with contemporary interviews with them. These were viewed by people that then evaluated the sexual orientation of the subjects both as kids and as adults. It was shocking to see how frequently the orientation was obvious even when the kids were 5 - 10 years old.
This raises the striking question--is homosexuality just about sex? To me, this suggests that who the person chooses to have sex with is just one small fragment of what being gay really means. I guess that really should be common sense. After all, we only have sex a few hours a week--if we're lucky-- but there's a total of 168 hours in a week. Why define people so strongly by who they have sex with rather than all the other myriad factors in their life. Just a thought.
I'll probably come back to this subject later on. The idea of sexual orientation coloring our entire existance is interesting and bears some contemplation. In any case, this was a very good segment. Anyone interested should go to the 60 Minutes website and check out the video segments they have there on this.
Comments
I agree with you that the issue is very complicated and there's certainly a nurture element at work also. I don't think it's nearly as important as nature though.
I don't give any creedence to your idea about the male genetic material producing less testosterone in progeny as the male ages. The coding of DNA just doesn't seem to allow that problem. The biggest effect on reproduction as a male ages is that there's a much larger mutation rate in sperm and more and more of the sperm don't work right resulting in lower fertility. The explanation given tentatively in the show about the mothers immune responce doesn't explain the difference between right and left handed sons--so I don't think it works either as an explanation.
Michelle, thanks! It's always nice to get a visit from you. I hope to visit you also next time I get to Australia. LOL But it's just so damn far away!
Oreo, thanks, I think. You know--I never seem to see any mention of girl cats in your blog.... only squirrels and mice and cute toys. Hmmm. What a life!
Lois Lane
I agree with you, Utenzi. Who you have sex with doesn't define you as gay/straight - I think it's who you fall in love with. Anyone can have sex, that's easy. Falling in love with someone of the same sex defines your sexuality.
cheers,
Shane
via Michele
Michele sent me tonight.
All right, this is officially the most politically-oriented comment I've ever posted anywhere. Political science?~,:^)
here via Michele's :)
I've written about this in earlier blog postings and columns. What strikes me about the more public - column - writing is how narrow-minded some folks are. As soon as they see the term "homosexual" in the headline or the lead paragraph, they gird themselves for a fight.
Before long, they're inundating my inbox with the same kind of vitriolic, homophobic patois that has been tossed around since long before we came to this planet.
To see such cogent discussion in your comments section is a joy to behold. I guess we have lots of research yet to do before we truly understand the roots of sexuality. Cool. Looks like I'll have lots to write about, too.
Reminds me of something I saw in the Globe and Mail on March 11th on identical twins becoming different. Dr., Moshe Szyf at McGill is researching epigenetics, genetic changes that don't involve mutations in DNA. There's also a book called Divided Minds: Twin sisters and their journey through Schizophrenia (as one identical sister developed it but not the other).
I myself am involved in research into twins separated at birth and the relationship to crime....some fascinating results emerging.
Have always said, homosexuality is not just about the sex.